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               Frequently Asked Questions on Soc.Culture.Jewish
            Part 9: The Holocaust, Antisemitism, and Missionaries
                    [Last Post: Thu Feb  5 11:07:09 US/Pacific 2004]

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   This portion of the FAQ contains answers to the following questions:

                                Section 15:
                       Churban Europa (The Holocaust)
                                      
    1. [5]Why do Jews seem to treat the Holocaust as their tragedy alone?
    2. [6]Where can I get information on the Holocaust? 
    3. [7]How do I get tickets to see the United States Holocaust
       Memorial Museum? 
    4. [8]Is there any online information available on Yad Vashem? 

                                Section 16:
                     Antisemitism and Rumors about Jews
                                      
    1. [5]Why is antisemitism used to mean anti-Jewish? 
    2. [6]Is there any truth to the myth of the Jewish American Princess?
    3. [7]What is the connection between Judaism and Freemasonry? 
    4. [8]How do I counter antisemitic postings such as the infamous
       "Protocols"? 
    5. [9]Did the Jews kill Jesus?
    6. [10]Can you tell me about the Disputation at Barcelona?

                                Section 17:
                          Countering Missionaries
                                      
    1. [5]Are groups calling themselves "Jews for Jesus" or "Messianic
       Jews[sic]" Jewish movements? 
    2. [6]Is belief in Jesus-as-G-d compatible with any Jewish movements?
    3. [7]Countering the Question: Why Don't Jews Believe in Jesus as the
       Messiah?
    4. [8]What do missionary groups believe?
    5. [9]What sort of deceptive terminology do missionaries use?
    6. [10]How can these missionaries be countered?
    7. [11]Who is financing "Jews for Jesus" and similar groups?
    8. [12]Are the key Christian beliefs derived from Judaism?


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Subject: Question 15.1: Why do Jews seem to treat the Holocaust as their
         tragedy alone?

                                  Answer:
   
   Jews don't, and in fact, a hefty percentage of articles on the
   Holocaust go out of their way to mention the number of gentiles
   murdered, as well as soldiers and civilians killed in the war itself.
   
   Jews focus upon it for several reasons: (1) It destroyed a third (1/3)
   of world Jewry, almost all of European Jewry, and obliterated the
   entire European Jewish culture. (2) It was directed primarily at
   Jews--Hitler himself wrote that his real war was against Judaism and
   the idea of absolute morality, the antithesis of amoral nationalism.
   (see his discussions with his friend, Hermann Rauschning) (3) It
   happened just 50 years ago, which is recent.
   
   It is important to mention other attempts at mass extermination or
   national destruction, such as Armenian, Cambodian, East Timorese,
   Kurdish, Native Americans, Stalin's purges, etc.
   
   One should also mention other large scale injustices such as Black
   African enslavement in America, but to make clear that even if it is
   not the same as the Holocaust, it's still a moral problem.

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Subject: Question 15.2: Where can I get information on the Holocaust?

                                  Answer:
   
   Additional information may be found in the [5]Antisemitism Reading
   List, found at [6]http://www.scjfaq.org/rl/ant-index.html/.
   
   Information is also available on the newsgroup
   [7]soc.culture.jewish.holocaust, which is a storagehouse for all kinds
   of information from various sources on the Holocaust in Europe that
   occurred between 1942-1945 (along with the events leading up to it
   that happened in the early 30's). In that group you will find
   Holocaust materials from both personal testimonies of survivors and
   their families and "hard" facts from historians and observers. The
   newsgroup has a archive at [8]http://www.holocausthistory.org/.
   
   The [9]Nizkor Project (An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource)
   [Home Page: <http://www.nizkor.org>] has also made the following
   information on the Holocaust available; it can be used to answer the
   "revisionists":
     * A two-part FAQ on Auschwitz. The URL for [10]part 1 is:
       <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?camps/auschwitz/auschwitz.faq1>.
       The URL for [11]part 2 is:
       <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?camps/auschwitz/auschwitz.faq2>.
     * A two-part FAQ on Operation Reinhard -- A Layman's Guide to
       Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka. The URL for [12]part 1 is
       <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?camps/aktion.reinhard/reinhard.faq1
       >. The URL for [13]part 2 is
       <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?camps/aktion.reinhard/reinhard.faq2
       >.
     * A two-part FAQ on the Institute for Historical Review. The URL for
       [14]part 1 is
       <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?orgs/american/ihr/ihr.faq1>. The
       URL for [15]part 2 is
       <http://ftp.nizkor.org?orgs/american/ihr/ihr.faq2>.
     * A two-part FAQ that provides common answers to the various
       revisionists claims that the Holocaust never occured. The URL for
       [16]part 1 is
       <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/l/leuchter.fred/leuchter.faq
       1>. The URL for [17]part 2 is
       <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/l/leuchter.fred/leuchter.faq
       2>.
       
   If you are using WWW or Mosaic, the relevant pointer is:
   
   [18]http://www.nizkor.org/faqs
   
   The Nizkor Project also offers a direct and well-documented response
   to the IHR's "66 Questions & Answers About the Holocaust," at
   [19]<http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar.>.
   
   The Nizkor Project's archives are now searchable, using URL
   <[20]http://search.nizkor.org/search.html>.
   
   Alas, Nazi-ism didn't end with the Holocaust, and there has been a
   resurgance of neo-Nazi groups in Germany. Between October 1992 and
   April 1993, the [21]Simon Wiesenthal Center
   ([22]http://www.wiesenthal.com/) conducted a covert operation to
   determine the strength, financial base, and ultimate leadership of
   Germany's neo-Nazi movement. Center officials also wanted to find out
   the links between Germany's radical right and similar organizations in
   the United States, and to determine the degree of commitment on the
   part of German police towards the enforcement of laws passed by the
   German parliament over the years to thwart the resurgence of Nazism in
   the Bundesrepublik. The results of this operation are documented and
   [23]available on the net at the URL
   <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?orgs/american/wiesenthal.center/swc.opr
   ep>.
   
   A [24]Holocaust bibliography is also available at the URL
   <http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?bibliographies>. It contains thousands
   of listings for those interested in research.
   
   You might also contact the [25]Simon Wisenthal Center:
   
    9760 West Pico Blvd.
    Los Angeles, CA 90035
    voice: (310)-553-9036
    fax: (310)-277-5558
    e-mail: [26]webmaster@wiesenthal.com
    WWW: <http://www.wiesenthal.com>
    Reference librarian/archivist: Paul Hamburg

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Subject: Question 15.3: How do I get tickets to see the United States
         Holocaust Memorial Museum?

                                  Answer:
   
   Opened in April 1993, on the fiftieth anniversary of the Warsaw ghetto
   uprising, the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington,
   D.C., summons all who enter its portals to rise to an important and
   extraordinary challenge: to remember and immortalize the 6 milion Jews
   and millions of other Nazi victims of World War II--Gypsies, Poles,
   homosexuals, the handicapped, Jehovah's Witnesses, political and
   religious dissidents, Soviet prisoners of war--who were murdered in
   the most horrifying event of our time: the Holocaust.
   
   The main task of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is to
   present the facts of the Holocaust, to tell the American public as
   clearly and comprehensively as possible what happened in that darkest
   chapter of human history. To this end, the Museum has reconstructed
   the history of the Holocaust through multiple media: the meaningful
   arrangement of objects as well as the presentation of documentary
   photographic and cinematographic materials. This museum holds the
   world's largest and most diversified collection of Holocaust-related
   objects; but in its display it is a "conceptual museum" rather than a
   traditional, object-oriented one: it's primary purpose is to
   communicate concepts, complex information, and knowledge, rather than
   merely to display objects of the Holocaust, unrelated to the
   historical context of each individual exhibit.
   
   A visit to the museum, or a tour through the virtual exhibition, can
   be an interesting and challenging learning experience but, at the same
   time, it also will be a thought-provoking, disturbing, and personally
   upsetting one. And so it should be.
   
   The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is a free, Federal Museum
   dedicated to presenting the history of the persecution and murder of
   six million Jews and millions of other victims of Nazi tyrrany from
   1933-1945. To accomodate large numbers of visitors expected by the
   museum, and to ensure a meaningful experience for every one, the
   museum is open on a time-ticket basis, which means that a ticket is
   required for admission, and that tickets are marked with a specific
   time and day in order to regulate the number of people passing through
   the exhibits at any given time.
   
   Tickets may be obtained in one of three ways: you can visit or call
   Ticketmaster at 1-800-432-SEAT and purchase tickets for a specified
   date and time using a credit card. Currently, there is a $3.50 phone
   charge and a $1.00 per ticket handling fee. Tickets to the museum are
   free, except for the handling charges which go directly to
   Ticketmaster. A second method of obtaining tickets is to go directly
   to the walk-up window and request them. Demand is heavy, and only a
   portion of each day's tickets are set aside for walk-up business. The
   last, and most difficult, method of obtaining tickets is to call your
   elected representative and request assistance in finding tickets. The
   Museum is not part of the Smithsonian system, and therefore some
   Congressmen do not bother to request complimentary tickets from the
   museum. Some do.
   
   The Museum is open from 10:00-5:30 daily, except for Christmas (go
   figure!) and certain Jewish holidays (to be determined). The telephone
   number is (202) 488-0400. Their [5]home page is available at
   [6]http://www.ushmm.org/
   .

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Subject: Question 15.4: Is there any online information available on Yad
         Vashem?

                                  Answer:
   
   Yad Vashem is the Holocaust memorial of the Jewish people. Located in
   Jerusalem Israel, it was established in 1953 by an act of Parliament.
   
   At the core of the Holocaust was the decision to kill the Jews--six
   million of whom were murdered. These events are of monumental
   significance for the contemporary world and, by directing visitors to
   confront this history, we hope to stimulate them to grapple with
   issues that strike at our basic nature as human beings and to gain
   insights about our societies and about ourselves.
   
   The name YAD VASHEM comes from a passage in the Book of Isaiah:
   
     "And to them will I give in my house and within my walls a memorial
     ... an everlasting name [a "yad vashem"], that shall not be cut
     off." (chapter 56, verse 5).
     
   Yad Vashem is available via WWW using the following URL:
   [5]http://www.yad-vashem.org.il/

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Subject: Question 16.1: Why is antisemitism used to mean anti-Jewish? Aren't
         Arabs Semites too?

                                  Answer:
   
   The word "anti-Semitism" was coined in Germany in 1879 by Wilhelm Marr
   as a more euphonious way of saying "Judenhass" (Jew-hatred), and has
   always meant exactly that. Its antonym, "Semitism" connoted a positive
   attitude toward the Jewish people. The word has become too sanitized
   and too easily misunderstood, which is exactly what Marr tried to
   accomplish with the word's creation.
   
   According to a (now discredited) nineteenth century theory that held
   that racial groups and linguistic groups coincide, Semites are natives
   of a group of Middle Eastern nations that are closely related in
   ethnicity, culture and language. Under this theory, the modern day
   Semites would be the Jews and Arabs. In ancient times, the Assyrians,
   Canaanites, Carthaginians, Aramaeans and Akkadians (one of the
   ancestors of the ancient Babylonians) were also counted among the
   Semitic nations. It should be noted that many of these groups
   contributed much to the development of modern culture, in particular
   the Phoenicians (Semitic seafarers including Canaanites, Aramaeans and
   northern Israelites), the Babylonians, as well as the Arabs and Jews.
   
   One theory that has been voiced among the practitioners of ancient
   history is that these groups emerged from a common home in Arabia
   during the early Sumerian period. More likely, they were descended
   from various waves of people who entered the Middle East, only the
   last of which brought the Semitic languages. Like the Babylonian king
   Hammurabi, Abraham appears to have been an "Amurru" or West Semite, a
   group that spread out from the Levant to as far east as Ur and
   Babylon. Hebrew and Aramaic are both West Semitic languages.
   
   The modern day "Semites" all claim to trace their ancestry to Noah's
   son, Shem, from whom they take their name.
   
   Given that the theory of "semites" and non-"semites" is now
   discredited, the preferred term to use is "Antisemitism", which has a
   general connotation of "anti-Jewish". When written in this fashion, it
   helps to eliminate the confusion with the discredited theory. (The use
   of the non-hyphenated form is a suggestion of the distinguished
   historian James Parkes). Emil Fackenheim, the Jewish philosopher, has
   also adopted this spelling, explaining "... the spelling ought to be
   antisemitism without the hyphen, dispelling the notion that there is
   an entity 'Semitism' which 'anti-Semitism' opposes" (Emil Fackenheim,
   "Post-Holocaust Anti-Jewishness, Jewish Identity and the Centrality of
   Israel," in World Jewry and the State of Israel, ed. Moshe Davis, p.
   11, n. 2).

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Subject: Question 16.2: Is there any truth to the myth of the Jewish American
         Princess?

                                  Answer:
   
   While there may be a few token women who fit the stereotype, it's a
   cruel slur frequently directed at Jewish women in general, and not
   always by Jews. (see William Styron's Sophie's Choice, especially
   chapter 7, for some very offensive Jewish portrayals, including the
   JAP.)
   
   The most common use of the slur "JAP" is by Jewish men who rationalize
   their habit of dating gentile women by slandering the Jewish women
   whom they could be dating. Many who use the term are unaware of its
   offensive nature, so if someone uses it innocently, politely ask them
   not to use the term.

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Subject: Question 16.3: What is the connection between Judaism and
         Freemasonry?

                                  Answer:
   
   The following is extracted from a paper by Paul M. Bessel of Arlington
   VA that accompanied presentations in February 1989. The FAQ would
   would like to thank David Kaufman ([5]davidkman@hotmail.com) for
   providing this information; the full text of the presentation may be
   obtained from him. The full text is online at
   [6]http://www.bessel.org/masjud.htm.
   
   Jews were actively involved in the beginnings of Freemasonry in
   America. There is evidence they were among those who established
   Masonry in seven of the original thirteen states: Rhode Island, New
   York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Georgia, South Carolina, and Virginia.
   
   A Jewish Mason, Moses Michael Hays, helped introduce the Masonic
   Scottish Rite in America. Paul Revere served under him as Deputy Grand
   Master. There were several other Jews who held the masonic titles in
   the late 1700's: Solomon Bush in Pennsylvania, Joseph Myers in
   Maryland and later in South Carolina, and Abraham Forst of
   Philadelphia in Virginia in 1781. Another Jewish Grand Master was
   Moses Seixas in Rhode Island from 1791 until 1800. There were many
   other American Jewish Masons in early American history, including one
   in George Washington's original Fredericksburg Lodge.
   
   Jewish Masons played an important part in the American Revolution,
   with 24 of them serving as officers in George Washington's army. In
   addition, several helped finance the American cause, including Haym
   Salomon, a Philadelphia Jewish Mason who with others contributed and
   raised money for the American war effort and loaned money to
   Jefferson, Madison, Lee, and others for their personal expenses.
   Salomon was imprisoned by the British and died in his 40's bankrupt
   and with penniless heirs.
   
   There is evidence that Jews, including rabbis, continued to be
   involved in the Masonic movement in the United States. There have been
   at least 51 Jewish American Grand Masters. Today there are many Jews
   active in Masonry in America and other countries. Israel has about 60
   Masonic lodges with 3,000 members.
   
   Jews had also been involved to a small extent in the formation of
   modern Freemasonry in the early 1700's in England. Until then Jews
   were not permitted to participate in many of the ordinary activities
   of life. Then the Enlightenment concept of the universality of all
   people brought about a society where people's religious beliefs did
   not affect their rights as citizens. Jews were gradually permitted to
   exercise the rights of citizenship and to pursue their lives as they
   wished.
   
   Many Jews viewed joining Freemasonry as part of their "emancipation"
   from the old legal and social exclusions. Modern Masonry was as much a
   product of the Enlightenment as the emancipation of Jews. Many society
   leaders were Freemasons and if Jews could join this fraternity that
   would prove they were being accepted. They could also use the
   opportunities presented by their participation in a social
   organization with Christians to prove the two could prosper by their
   association. Freemasonry's philosophy of the brotherhood of all people
   indicated Masonry would accept Jews as members.
   
   There are many common themes and ideals in Masonic and Jewish rituals,
   symbols, and words:
     * Belief in G-d, prayer, immortality of the soul, charity, and
       acting respectfully to all people are essential elements of
       Freemasonry as well as Judaism, and of course other religions too.
     * Masonry and Judaism, as well as other religions and statements of
       ethical standards, teach that we must discipline ourselves and
       keep our passions in check. Jewish masons follow rituals in
       synagogues and in Masonic lodges to help them develop this
       ability.
     * Judaism and Masonry give the greatest respect and support for
       freedom of individuals. Judaism teaches that everyone is capable
       of good or evil and attempts to help us use our free will to
       choose the righteous path. Masonry teaches that those who are
       morally fit can find "light" in Masonry if they desire it of their
       own free will. The concept of exercising free will to accept the
       law and atone for past transgressions is what Rosh Hashanah and
       Yom Kippur are about.
     * Light is an important symbol in both Freemasonry and Judaism.
       Contrast the holiday of Chanukah with the use of light in Masonry,
       where it represents the Divine spirit, religious freedom, and
       rededication of the Temple in Jerusalem and of the spiritual
       Temple within us all.
     * One of the fundamental symbols of Masonry is the Temple of Solomon
       and the Second Temple, which also figured as the central part of
       the Jewish religion. King Solomon, one of the greatest figures in
       Jewish history, is also one of the most important figures in
       Masonic rituals.
       
   While there are many common aspects of Judaism and Freemasonry, it
   also should be recognized that because of the history of attempts to
   force Jews to convert they can be uncomfortable about being asked to
   say Christian prayers or otherwise indicate non-Jewish beliefs. Some
   parts of Masonry use New Testament prayers, references to Saints, the
   cross as a religious symbol (although it is stated that the cross is
   being used as a symbol of religion in general rather than the
   Christian religion), and one Masonic organization requires aspiring
   members to swear to support the Christian faith. Jews must deal with
   these references to other religions by remaining quiet or not
   participating in those parts of Masonry.
   
   Did Masonry always welcome Jews? No. Although a Jew, Edward Rose,
   became a Mason in a London lodge in 1732, this event apparently
   excited attention and led to other lodges debating whether they should
   permit Jewish members. Eventually, significant numbers of Jews joined
   English Masonry where they were apparently welcomed. French Masonic
   lodges, and those in different countries affiliated with the French
   Grand Orient during the Napoleonic occupations, admitted Jews without
   restrictions. In 1869 a Jew was Grand Master of the Scottish Rite in
   Paris. However, later in the 1800's French society became more
   anti-Semitic, culminating in the Dreyfus affair where a French army
   officer was unjustly accused of treason mainly because he was a Jew,
   and French Masonry unfortunately also became more anti-Jewish. Today,
   some parts of French Masonry are officially neutral about religion and
   do not even require a belief in G-d. In Scandinavia, according to some
   sources, Masonry is officially Christian and does not accept Jewish
   members.
   
   It is probably not surprising that the country with the longest
   history of anti-Semitic prejudice in Freemasonry as well as in society
   is Germany. Most lodges there did not permit Jews to be members, and
   they even questioned visiting Masonic brethren about their religion at
   the doors of their lodges and barred Jews even if they were Masons in
   good standing in other lodges. This caused lodges in England, the
   Netherlands, and the United States to protest but they did not
   retaliate against visiting German Masons.
   
   German officials feared secret societies as potential sources of
   subversion, so the Prussian government became involved in Masonry as a
   means to watch and control it. The future Kaiser Wilhelm I was the
   patron of the three Berlin Grand Lodges for many years, and he decided
   that Jews would only be permitted if there was unanimous agreement.
   Since one of the Grand Lodges was known to be adamant against
   accepting Jews, this forced the others who wanted to be more tolerant
   to maintain anti-Jewish policies.
   
   In Russia, Freemasonry was also suppressed because of the belief it
   might be used to support political activity against the Csarist
   regime, at the same time that Jews were prevented from obtaining
   rights of citizenship in that country.
   
   Various claims were made by those who wanted to keep Jews out of
   Masonry. Some said Masonry was a Christian institution and Jews could
   not become members unless they converted. Some said only Christians
   could possess the good character necessary to achieve Masonic ideals.
   
   Others said Masonry has Christian symbols and prayers but Jews could
   become Masons if they simply complied with requirements such as
   swearing on the Christian Gospels and eating pork at Masonic meals
   (both violations of halacha), without having to convert. However,
   there was also an argument that if a Jew voluntarily complied with
   Christian practices he showed he was contemptuous of his own religion
   and had a bad character, and was thus unworthy to be a Mason.
   
   Another argument was that Jews preferred to be in their own social
   groups. It was said they should not try to push their way into Masonic
   lodges where they were not wanted, would be uncomfortable, and would
   make others uncomfortable by their presence. Some Jews did join lodges
   that were primarily Jewish and the B'nai B'rith organization in its
   early days had a ritual parallel to Freemasonry.
   
   Finally, there were the rawest antisemitic arguments. Some of those
   who wanted to keep Jews out of Masonry said the Jewish religion was
   inherently evil, or that Jews were racially and genetically evil and
   could never be permitted in Masonry even if they converted.
   
   In general, Freemasonry's attitudes toward Jews mirrors those of the
   rest of society. Jews became more acceptable from the late 1700's
   until the 1870's. From that time on, anti-Semitism increased in many
   countries. This also occurred in Freemasonry, but by then Judaism and
   Masonry were being jointly attacked.
   
   Freemasons and Jews always had critics. Eventually the bigots realized
   they could promote their ideas by tying Masons and Jews together as
   objects of hatred.
   
   Critics said Freemasonry and Judaism were dedicated to undermining the
   institutions of existing society, including Christianity and the
   State, and pointed to the secrecy associated with both as proof of
   their evil intentions. Masons and Jews were said to be involved in, or
   benefited from, radical efforts such as the American, French, and
   Russian revolutions. Masonry and Judaism promoted free will of men,
   contrary to efforts of those who sought to insure that people had the
   "correct" thoughts. (This may explain why the Roman Catholic Papacy
   has expressed its antagonism toward Freemasonry so frequently and
   strongly since 1738, and why extreme conservatives in other religions
   also oppose Freemasonry.) Gradually the charge was made that
   Freemasons and Jews were both evil and they were purposely supporting
   each others' radical schemes.
   
   Ironically, Masons and Jews were also sometimes accused of being too
   reactionary. Aristocrats often belonged to Masonic lodges, and some
   German Masons promoted the return of the Kaiser after World War I
   brought about a republic. Also, some Jews still dressed and acted in
   the same conservative ways as their ancestors in the middle ages and
   thus kept themselves apart from modern society.
   
   Increasingly Jews and Freemasons were accused of being disloyal to
   their countries, keeping strange secrets, and designing to take over
   the world.
   
   The ultimate form of this hatred was the sinister "Protocols of the
   Elders of Zion", which originated in Russia and received wide
   circulation after it was translated into German in the 1920's. Some
   bigots claimed this document was a transcript of a meeting of Jewish
   leaders plotting world domination, in partnership with Freemasons.
   Although this document was not even a clever hoax, its influence was
   unbelievably widespread and long-lasting in whipping up hatred against
   Jews and Masons by many, including Henry Ford in the United States
   during his long anti-Jewish campaign in the 1920's and 1930's.
   
   It was a short step from this to the ideology of the Nazis. Hitler
   attacked Masons as well as Jews, and after taking control of Germany
   and other European countries Nazis used the slogan "All Masons
   Jews--all Jews Masons", and persecuted Masons, Jews, and others. The
   Soviet Union and other totalitarian regimes have consistently attacked
   Freemasonry, because they cannot tolerate an organization whose basic
   beliefs are freedom of individuals and tolerance and generosity toward
   all people.
   
   Dictatorships have regularly attacked and persecuted Masons and Jews,
   and these attacks on Masons and Jews together are not all in the past.
   Last year a group called the "Islamic Resistance Movement--Palestine"
   said that Freemasonry and other "Zionist-affiliated" organizations are
   about to be liquidated.

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Subject: Question 16.4: How do I counter antisemitic postings such as the
         infamous "Protocols"?

                                  Answer:
   
   A good starting point is the web page
   <[5]http://www.igc.apc.org/ddickerson/protocols.html>. This site
   contains a number of links with information on how to counter the
   protocols.
   
   Another page that might be of use is
   [6]http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/. This Web site
   provides refutations to various alleged quotes from the Talmud which
   are distributed by anti-Semites as well as refutations of other
   anti-Semitic claims.
   
   In a related issue, there is an urban legend circulating about Barnes
   and Noble stocking the Protocols as a Jewish book. Here is a
   refutation of that legend, from the fellow who started the protest,
   Rabbi Eric Silver:
   
                                                              March 1999
     
     This will be (I hope) my final statement on the Barnes and Noble
     issue, and because of its content, I would ask that it be given the
     widest possible distribution. (I probably don't need to say that.
     My e-mail box, my fax lines and my telephone have been jammed for
     days.
     
     As many of you know, some weeks ago I contacted Barnes and Noble
     over the fact that they were carrying "The Protocols of the Learned
     Elders of Zion" under the rubric of "Judaica" (yes and no-depending
     upon how and where one looked on the net and in the retail stores,)
     and that their web site contained a review by a person purporting
     to be a university professor, attesting to the historicity of the
     book and claiming that many of the dire predictions and plots in
     the book were already coming to fruition. Barnes and Noble told me
     that they saw it as their mission to carry every title in print,
     cited the First Amendment, and you can guess the rest, so I wrote
     an e-mail describing the situation, sending it out to the various
     lists on which I am a subscriber. Friday afternoon I received a
     phone call from Gus Carlson who heads up the Communications and
     Customer Relations Department at Barnes and Noble, and Laura Dawson
     who manages the company's data base for the on-line and retail
     stores. They had just gotten off the phone after a session with
     ADL. That call was followed by a phone call from Tom Simon, Vice
     President of Content Development at the company. They deeply
     regretted the earlier response I had received, and both wanted to
     assure me that at no time did any anti-Semitic intent color Barnes
     and Noble's actions in this matter. I think they are to be
     absolutely believed on this score. This company carries many books,
     and each book has its adherents and its detractors. The company's
     initial response to me was to cite First Amendment freedoms, and
     indicate that they would carry even controversial books. I would be
     the first to agree with that position. "Protocols," however, is in
     a different category altogether, and the three B&N executives with
     whom I spoke all agree with that. They made plain to me that the
     company was not aware of the book's true nature at the outset of
     all this brouhaha, and that had they been, the book would have been
     classified differently. They also assured me that new company
     policy would ensure that reviews would be carefully screened to
     ensure that a spurious review does not pop up on their web site.
     
     A bit of clarification is in order: very often a book will be
     classified by its distributor, and Barnes and Noble will accept the
     classification. An out of print version of "Protocols" that carries
     the label "Judaica" will be classified that way on the Internet
     site because no one at B&N knows any different. That's a far cry
     from malice. Similarly, if it finds its way onto a shelf in a
     retail store, there are obvious reasons why the manager would place
     it in the Judaica area. The title itself is misleading, and pity
     the poor store manager who obviously doesn't have the time to read
     every single book in the store.
     
     I think we're done with this issue, and in the best possible way.
     Please-don't boycott Barnes and Noble. They don't deserve it. They
     are honest book merchants who go out of their way to provide the
     reading public with the best in books and service. At no time in
     any of this was there even a scintilla of malicious intent.
     Occasionally even a good company will slip up, but once B&N became
     aware of the book's true nature, they acted with alacrity. The fake
     review was pulled, and the book is being appropriately identified.
     They have taken steps to ensure that spurious reviews don't pop up
     on any book that might be controversial, and they have also taken
     steps to prevent a vendor from classifying a book under a
     particular heading (i.e., Judaica,) without that classification
     coming under B&N's scrutiny. Moreover, Mr. Simon has asked me to
     prepare a review of "Protocols" and he will post it on the web site
     as the first review. He also proposed that I include URL's to sites
     that would advise readers about the nature of propaganda, hate
     literature, and so forth. Lastly, he advised me that the company is
     considering setting up a new classification called "propaganda,"
     "hate literature," or something like that. That would ensure that
     hate literature (sic!) doesn't inadvertently pop up in the wrong
     section. I want to commend Barnes and Noble for cleaning up their
     own act, and I also want to commend the many of you out there who
     have taken the time to let B&N know of your concern. More than
     anything else, it proves that this is a company that listens to its
     customers, and that's what good business is all about.
     
     Rabbi Eric A. Silver
     
   Similar comments were raised about Amazon.com, which prompted the
   [7]ADL to raise the issue to Amazon's corporate office. Here is the
   result, as [8]documented by the ADL at
   [9]http://www.adl.org/frames/front%5Fprotocols%5Fzion.html:
   
     New York, NY, March 28, 2000...
     
     The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) said today that Amazon.com and
     Barnes & Noble.com have agreed to prominently place on their Web
     sites ADL's statement that The Protocols of the Learned Elders of
     Zion is an anti-Semitic Czarist forgery. ADL said the online
     booksellers would state that they do not endorse the views
     expressed in the book or the publisher's description should one
     appear, which Amazon.com has had instituted for some time. Abraham
     H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement:
     
     We are pleased that Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com have
     responded positively to our concerns and those of the public, and
     have instituted ways to alert their customers to the fact that the
     Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a forgery. Since we are
     not in the business of banning books, no matter how reprehensible
     they may be, we sought and achieved the best solution to inform
     book buyers. Both Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com have
     demonstrated corporate responsibility and we commend them for it.
     
     Following is ADL's statement on the Protocols which will appear on
     Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com:
     
     "From the Anti-Defamation League: The Protocols of the Learned
     Elders of Zion, circulated by the Czarist secret police at the turn
     of the 20th century, is plainly and simply a plagiarized forgery.
     The Protocols has been a major weapon in the arsenals of
     anti-Semites around the world, republished and circulated by
     individuals, hate groups and governments to convince the gullible
     as well as the bigoted that Jews have schemed and plotted to take
     over the world."
     
     In addition, Barnes and Noble bookstores will no longer shelve The
     Protocols under "Judaica," but under "World History."

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Subject: Question 16.5: Did the Jews kill Jesus?

                                  Answer:
   
   Official Christian doctrine no longer holds that Jews killed Jesus,
   although it once spread that lie. Where did the notion come from? In
   the "New Testament", Jews are held in part responsible for Jesus'
   death. Some of this position comes from the fact that the disciples
   were Jewish, and it was a disciple, Judas, who betrayed him to the
   Roman authorities. Some Christian sources depict a scene in which "the
   Jews," given the choice of saving Barrabas or Jesus from crucifixion,
   chose Barrabas. However, the text doesn't tell us who :"the Jews"
   were; further, assuming this took place (which is historically
   unlikely given the Roman's behavior), they all couldn't have been
   gathered in one place. So, again, there is only indirect
   responsibility. Finally, politically, we know that some Jewish leaders
   (who were appointed by Roman Government) may have seen Jesus as a
   political threat. However, the threat was more to the Romans, and the
   Jewish leaders may have been pressured to silence him. The final
   decision lay with the Romans, who alone used crucifixion as a means of
   killing criminals and who alone had authority to impose the death
   penalty.
   
   The New Testament accounts do not agree on the story of who killed
   Jesus. The Encylopedia Judaica summarizes this as follows. In the
   first three books, the Pharisees are not mentioned in connection with
   the trial, and in John, only once (18:3). Only Mark (14:53-65;
   followed by Matt. 26:59-68) records a formal, Jewish, "night" trial
   with accusations, witnesses, and a sentence. Luke records a morning
   hearing before the Sanhedrin (Luke 22:66-71) without formal
   sentencing, and John has separate appearances before Annas (at night)
   and Caiaphas (in the morning) who conducts an interrogation (18:12-
   24). In the entire book of Luke (not just in his description of the
   Passion) there is no mention of the Sanhedrin's verdict against Jesus,
   and John records nothing about an assembly of the Sanhedrin before
   which Jesus appeared. Hence, it seems very probable that no session of
   the Sanhedrin took place in the house of the high priest where Jesus
   was in custody, and that the "chief priests and elders and scribes"
   who assembled there were members of the Temple committee (see also
   Luke 20:1): the elders were apparently the elders of the Temple and
   the scribes were the Temple secretaries. The deliverance of Jesus into
   the hands of the Romans was, it seems, the work of the Sadducean "high
   priests," who are often mentioned alone in the story. A man suspected
   of being a messianic pretender could be delivered to the Romans
   without a verdict of the Jewish high court. In addition, the high
   priests were interested in getting rid of Jesus, who had spoken
   against them and had predicted the destruction of the Temple. Mark
   offers some clues to the historical situation. The public reason given
   in the placard on the cross (Mark 15:26), recorded in all four
   Gospels, was that Jesus claimed to be a king, which for the Romans was
   tantamount to sedition. Those crucified with Jesus are called
   "revolutionary bandits". Jesus teaching on the kingdom, his
   association with marginal groups in his society, and his attacks on
   abuses associated with the Temple made him suspect to both Romans and
   the Jerusalem aristocracy. Though some interrogation may have taken
   place before Jewish authorities, the Romans bear the responsibility
   for any formal trial. All the texts agree that the Roman prefect,
   Pontius Pilate (a.d. 26- 36), ordered the execution (also attested by
   the Roman historian Tacitus, Annals 15.44). The execution was in the
   Roman way, by crucifixion. All the books indicate that on the third
   day after the crucifixion Jesus' tomb was found empty. According to
   Mark an angel announced that Jesus had risen, and the other books
   state that Jesus appeared before his believers after his death.
   
   Jewish laws on capital trials are found in texts almost two centuries
   after the death of Jesus (M. Sanh. 4-11), so it is not known whether
   they reflect first-century practice. By these norms the trial in Mark
   is not legal, since according to the Mishnah capital trials could not
   be held at night or on the eve of a Sabbath or feast day (M. Sanh.
   4:1). The sentence of death could not be pronounced on the same day as
   the trial (M. Sanh. 4:1); prior examination of witnesses, as well as
   independent agreement of their testimony, was required (M. Sanh. 4:5;
   cf. Deut. 19:15-18); the charge of blasphemy required the explicit
   pronouncing of the divine name (M. Sanh. 7:5); and trials were to be
   held in the official chamber, not in the house of the high priest (M.
   Sanh. 11:2; cf. Mark 14:54). Also uncertain is whether the Sanhedrin
   had the power to execute for capital offenses during Roman occupation
   (see John 18:31). If so, Jesus should have been stoned, which was the
   Jewish penalty for blasphemy.
   
   We also know that the early Christians who wrote the story wanted to
   make the Romans appear less guilty.
   
   Another factor to consider: It was Jesus' resurrection that began
   Christianity. If the Roman's hadn't killed Christ, he wouldn't have
   had the opportunity to rise (if you hold with the resurrection). In
   fact, in the texts, Jesus claims all responsibility, and is explicitly
   the "willing Suffering Servant" Christian theology is that Jesus'
   entire purpose was to come to die.

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Subject: Question 16.6: Can you tell me about the Disputation at Barcelona?

                                  Answer:
   
   This question refers to the disputation between the Ramban
   (Nachmanides, not the Rambam) and Pablo Christiani, a Jew from
   Provence who became a Karaite and later a convert to Catholicism.
   Christiani had King James of Aragon's ear, and was able to convince
   the king to host the dispute. It was written up in a polemic by R'
   Chaim (Charles) Chavel, for which there is an English translation
   published by Shilo (1983), titled "Disputation at Barcelona". It is
   also the topic of Rabbi Dr. David Berger's PhD thesis and much of his
   book "Jewish-Christain Debate in the High Middle Ages", published by
   Aaronson in 1979. Some historical context is provided in from
   "Barcelona and Beyond: The Disputation of 1263 and Its Aftermath" by
   Robert Chazan, Berkeley: University of California Press (1992).
   Lastly, "The Disputation", a play re-enacting the debate, is available
   on video from a number of anti-missionary groups. (Try
   [5]http://www.outreachjudaism.org/)
   
   First, the use of "the" is probably incorrect, as there were many such
   disputations. They started around 1240 CE, when Nicholas Donin
   (another convert) challenged the local Rabbis to defend the Talmud
   against challenges of racism and anti-Christianity in the Talmud. They
   won the battle but lost the war, they won the dispute but the Talmuds
   were burned by the cartload anyway.
   
   Another famous disputation ran for two years. The Tortosa
   "disputation" (1413-14), between St. Vincent Ferrer and the apostate
   Geronimo and the local Jewish leaders. In this disputation, they let
   the Jews defend the gemara, but not attack Christianity. When the
   French Jewish community fled in the 1300s, and the Spanish and
   Portugese were force out in the 1490s, the trend of disputations
   ended.
   
   The dispute at Barcelona was near unique in that it let both sides
   have equal say. The key topics were Christianity, the Jewish
   definition of messiah, and proving the messiah hadn't yet come.
   Nachmanides relied heavily on logic, rather than purely citing
   sources. Again, Nachmanides won the battle, but lost the war--he had
   to flee Spain. The issues discussed in the debate included:
     * Whether Isaiah 53's suffering servant described Jesus.
     * Whether the Talmud, when it speaks of the messiah being alive in
       its day, meant that the messiah had come. In response to this,
       Nachmanides distinguished between the messiah being born, and the
       messiah coming. Moses didn't come until the declaration "Let my
       people go!" and clearly nothing parallel has happened to start the
       messianic era.
       
   An interesting side impact of this disputation was the result of the
   Ramban's willingness to use the Christian chapter system for citing
   verses in the dispute. This played a large role in the acceptance of
   the system amongst Jews, and its use today.
   
   Note that Pablo Chistianity trained under the Dominicans, the people
   behind the Inquisition. So the connection between the disputation and
   the later expulsion is probably significant. Also, when looking for
   books on Nachmanides in the Library of Congress, look under P for
   "Bonatruc ca Porta", his Castillian name.

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Subject: Question 17.1: Are groups calling themselves "Jews for Jesus" or
         "Messianic Jews[sic]" Jewish movements?

                                  Answer:
   
   No. Once you start reading their literature that they mail available
   to members (and on their web pages), it is clear that they are
   Christian organizations whose intent it to bring Jews to Christianity.
   Sadly, for many of these organizations, their membership includes
   persons who are technically Jewish, but who believe and practice
   Christianity.
   
   This is illustrated best by some examples:
     * Jews for Jesus. The following is a description of the
       Jews-for-Jesus ministry, from the member profile page of the
       Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability
       ([5]http://www.ecfa.org/mbrprof.asp?memberid=207):
       
     Jews for Jesus is an outreach by Jewish Christian evangelists. Our
     methods vary from conventional missionary work like personal
     visitation and tract distribution to large display media ads
     proclaiming Christ in secular newspapers and magazines.
     * Messianic Judaism. Messianic Jews are organized into the Messianic
       Jewish Alliance of America ([6]http://www.mjaa.org/). The
       description of this organization at the "About MJAA" page
       ([7]http://www.mjaa.org/about.ihtml) clearly states as a goal:
       
     Most importantly--To introduce our Jewish brothers and sisters to
     the Messiah Yeshua.
       
   Both of these organizations, and other similar groups, are clearly
   missionary organizations whose goal is to bring Jesus to the Jewish
   people.

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Subject: Question 17.2: Is belief in Jesus-as-G-d compatible with any Jewish
         movements?

                                  Answer:
   
   No. There are many problems when one tries to reconcile belief in
   Jesus as the Messiah or the "Son of God" with traditional Jewish
   beliefs. A good description of the problems is found in the essay "Why
   Jews Can't Be For Jesus" by Rabbi Shmuel Arkush, Head of Operation
   Judaism in the United Kingdom. The essay may be found at
   [5]http://www.ed.ac.uk/~jsoc/chadash/jesus.htm; some of the key points
   are repeated below:
     * Christians believe in the Trinity, that G-d consists of the
       Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. They say that this three-part
       G-d is the same as the G-d worshipped by the Jews. However, Torah
       says, "Hear O Israel, the L-rd is our G-d the L-rd is One." This
       is the watchword of our faith from Deut.. One cannot reconcile a
       single G-d with a three-part G-d.
     * Christians believe that one cannot approach G-d except through
       Jesus; therefore, all prayers must be in Jesus' name. However,
       Torah, in the Ten Commandments, says "I am the L-rd your G-d, who
       brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery.
       You shall have no other gods before me". By praying to Jesus as a
       mediator, one is putting Jesus before G-d.
     * Some Christians say that Jesus was a Prophet who came to change
       the way it used to be. Torah says: "If there arise among you a
       prophet or a dreamer and he gives you a sign or a miracle. And the
       sign or miracle comes to pass and he calls you saying 'Let us go
       after other gods, whom you have not known and let us worship
       them.' You shall not listen to that prophet or dreamer. For G-d is
       testing you, to see whether you love the L-rd your G-d with all
       your heart and with all your soul." (Deut. 13:2)
       
   All Jewish groups agree that organizations such as Jews for Jesus and
   Messianic Judaism are not Judaism. Consider the following responsa
   from the Central Conference of American Rabbis, the Reform Rabbinic
   organization:
   
     Individuals who feel a vague attachment to one or another religion
     pose no problem for those religious groups who leave identification
     solely in the hands of the individual. Judaism, however, does not
     do so. It is not the individual who defines whether she is Jewish
     but the group. For us in the Jewish community anyone who claims
     that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew and is an apostate.
     Through that belief she has placed herself outside the Jewish
     community. Whether she cares to define herself as a Christian or as
     a "fulfilled Jew", "Messianic Jew," or any other designation is
     irrelevant; to us, she is clearly a Christian. It is true that this
     individual may be somewhat different form other Christians as she
     continues to follow certain Jewish practices and folkways, but we
     should remember that various Christian sects do likewise. For
     example, the Seventh Day Adventists observe shabbat as their day of
     rest. There are some Black Christian groups who also follow
     specifically Jewish observances, and there have been other groups
     like this in the past centuries.
     
   The concluding paragraph of the responsa says:
   
     [They] should be seen as outsiders who have placed themselves
     outside the Jewish community. This should be made clear to them and
     to the Jewish and general community, especially as many such
     individuals are active proselytizers. Such individuals should not
     be accorded membership in the congregation or treated in any way
     which makes them appear as if they were affiliated with the Jewish
     community, for that poses a clear danger to the Jewish community
     and also to its relationships with the general community. We
     certainly do not want these individuals to speak for Judaism in any
     public forum. In conclusion, we should make the distinction between
     ourselves and these individuals very clear to them, to the Jewish
     community, and to the general community around us.
     
   This is also the position within the state of Israel. According to the
   law of the State of Israel, "Messianic Jews" are considered members of
   another religion and therefore ineligible to make aliyah to Israel as
   Jews. The "Messianic Jews" took their cases to the Israeli Supreme
   Court on more than one occasion, and every time the verdict was loud
   and clear - they're not Jewish!

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Subject: Question 17.3: Countering the Question: Why Don't Jews Believe in
         Jesus as the Messiah?

                                  Answer:
   
   The question above is a typical one asked by Christian Missionaries.
   The answer is easy, if one understands Jewish beliefs.
   
   Jews do not believe that the Messiah is a part of G-d, or Divine in
   any way, more than any other person. Jews look only to G-d for our
   salvation, and when the time comes for G-d to bring the anointed king,
   then it shall happen. Jews do not concern ourselves with the messiah's
   identity, for the messiah is a person and the messiah's coming does
   not change our relationship with G-d. Jews do not accept the notion
   that Scripture "foretells" that G-d would robe Himself in flesh; in
   fact, to Jews, this idea is idolatry, and we stand against it.
   
   The reason why Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah is
   straightforward: he did not meet the requirements in the job
   requisition! G-d outlined these requirements in the Bible. The key
   aspect of proof is in the state of the world.According to the Bible,
   amongst the most mission of the messiah includes returning the world
   to return to G-d and G-d's teachings; restoring the royal dynasty to
   the descendants of David; overseeing the rebuilding of Jerusalem,
   including the Temple; gathering the Jewish people from all over the
   world and bringing them home to the Land of Israel; reestablishing the
   Sanhedrin; restoring the sacrificial system, the Sabbatical year and
   Jubilee. This simply has not happened. Judaism has no notion of the
   messiah not doing these things on the first visit, let along needing a
   second visit to do these things. Whenever these things are described
   in the Tanach, the description says that the messiah will come and do
   these things--once.
   
   Oh, you want specifics? According to Torah, the Messiah will:
   
    1. Ezekiel 37:26-28: Build the Third Temple
    2. Isaiah 43:5-6: Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel
    3. Isaiah 2:4: Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred,
       oppression, suffering and disease. "Nation shall not lift up sword
       against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore."
    4. Zechariah 14:9: Spread universal knowledge of the G-d of Israel -
       uniting the entire human race as one: "G-d will be King over all
       the world--on that day, G-d will be One and His Name will be One"
       
   Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies. Additionally:
     * Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy could only exist in Israel when
       the land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the
       time of Ezra (~300 BCE) the majority of Jews refused to move from
       Babylon to Israel, thus prophecy ended upon the death of the last
       prophets (Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi). Jesus appeared on the
       scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had ended.
     * Jesus was not descended from King David. Per Genesis 49:10 and
       Isaiah 11:1, the Messiah must be descended on his father's side
       from King David. However, according to the Christian claim that
       Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father -- and
       thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement
       of being descended on his father's side from King David! The
       Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from a verse in Isaiah
       describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always
       meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries
       later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth
       with the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by
       G-ds.
     * Tradition teaches that the Messiah will lead the Jewish people to
       full Torah observance. Deut. 13:1-4 states that all mitzvahs
       remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is
       immediately identified as a false prophet. Throughout the New
       Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states its commandments
       are no longer applicable. (John 1:45 and 9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37)
       
   In Christianity, the role of the messiah was redefined in order to fit
   the man's career as written by his followers. As Jesus was said to
   have been resurrected, the Bible was examined with the purpose of
   finding evidence that the messiah would be killed without bringing
   peace to the world or redemption to Israel. There was therefore the
   expectation of a second coming, at which time Jesus would carry out
   the task expected of the messiah (because he obviously didn't do it
   the first time). This also required creation of an explanation for the
   first coming and its catastrophic end. The net result of all of this
   was to shift the function of the messiah from a visible level where it
   could be tested (as in Tanach, what Christians call the "Old
   Testament") to an invisible level where it could not. As a result of
   this reworking, the messiah's goal the first time around was changed
   from the redemption of Israel to the atonement for "original sin". A
   reworking of Biblical themes.
   
   There were also mistakes with respect to Jesus's death and its
   foretelling. Psalms 22:17 says, "Like a lion, they are at my hands and
   feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically similar
   to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a reference
   to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet." Christians also
   claim that Isaiah 53 refers to Jesus. Actually, Isaiah 53 directly
   follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption
   of the Jewish people. The singular form is used because the Jews
   ("Israel") are regarded as one unit (this occurs elsewhere in Torah).
   
   For Jews, if the Tanach's requirements for the messiah have not been
   fulfilled, then there can only be one explanation: he has not yet
   come. To Jews, who were often subjected to mockery and contempt when
   asked where their messiah was, this was a painful statement to make.
   But it was inescapable. As our forefather's said: Ani M'amin: I
   believe with complete faith in the coming of the messiah; and though
   he may tarry I shall wait for him every day."
   
   Furthermore, Christianity contradicts Jewish theology. In
   Christianity, the notion of "Trinity" breaks G-d into three separate
   beings: The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19).
   However, the basis of Jewish belief is captured in the Shema: "Hear O
   Israel, the Lord our G-d, the Lord is ONE" (Deut. 6:4). Jews declare
   the One-ness of G-d every day, writing it on doorposts (Mezuzah), and
   binding it to the hand and head (Tefillin). This statement of G-d's
   One-ness is the first words a Jewish child is taught to say, and the
   last words uttered before he dies. In Jewish law, worship of a
   three-part G-d is considered idolatry -- one of the three cardinal
   sins which a Jew should rather give up his life than transgress. This
   explains why during the Inquisitions and throughout history, Jews gave
   up their lives rather than convert.
   
   Furthermore, Christians believe that G-d came down to earth in human
   form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30). However,
   in Judaism, the fundamental idea is that G-d is Incorporial, meaning
   G-d has no physical form. In Judaism, G-d is Eternal, above time,
   Infinite, beyond space. G-d cannot be born, and cannot die. Saying
   that G-d assumes human form makes G-d small, diminishing both G-d's
   Unity and Divinity. The Torah says: "G-d is not a mortal" (Numbers
   23:19). Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents,
   with normal physical attributes just like other people. He will not be
   a demigod, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an
   individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into
   the role of the Messiah. (Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)
   
   In Christian belief, prayer must be directed through an intermediary.
   Jesus himself is an intermediary, as Jesus said: "No man cometh unto
   the Father but by me." In Judaism, prayer is a totally private matter,
   between each individual and G-d. Torah says, "G-d is near to all who
   call unto Him" (Psalms 145:18). Further, the Ten Commandments state:
   "You shall have no other gods before me," meaning that it is forbidden
   to set up a mediator between G-d and man. (Maimonides - Laws of
   Idolatry ch. 1)
   
   Lastly, in Christianity, the physical world is viewed as an evil to be
   avoided. Mary is portrayed as a virgin. Priests and nuns are celibate.
   Monasteries are in remote, secluded locations. In Judaism, the belief
   is that G-d created the physical world not to frustrate us, but for
   our pleasure. Jewish spirituality comes through grappling with the
   mundane world in a way that uplifts and elevates. Sex in the proper
   context is one of the holiest acts we can perform. The Talmud says if
   a person has the opportunity to taste a new fruit and refuses to do
   so, he will have to account for that in the World-to-Come. Jewish
   rabbinical schools teach how to live amidst the bustle of commercial
   activity. Jews don't retreat from life, we elevate it.
   
   So what do Jews say about Jesus, if he wasn't the messiah. The
   historical Jesus (not the mangod Christianity made him into)
   accomplished a great deal in turning people away from idolatry and
   towards a more authentic knowledge of G-d. But he has no special role
   to Judaism, in fact, no role at all.

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Subject: Question 17.4: What do missionary groups believe?

                                  Answer:
   
   Important Note: It should be pointed out that not all Christian groups
   conduct missionary activities, and that not all missionary groups
   target Jews. The questions in this section are focused primarily on
   those groups that target Jews for missionary activities, and use a
   Jewish basis for this targeting.
   
                                     **
                                      
   With respect to the beliefs of missionary groups, their own statements
   express their beliefs. Although beliefs vary between the various
   groups that missionize, clear examples of the goals of these groups
   can be found in the ministry statements for such groups that are on
   file at the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountabily (ECFA)
   <[5]http://www.ecfa.org/>:
     * The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc.: Friends of Israel
       Gospel Ministry is an evangelical faith ministry proclaiming the
       need for personal salvation through faith in Jesus Christ to
       Jewish people and their Gentile
       neighbors.([6]http://www.ecfa.org/mbrprof.asp?memberid=685)
     * Jews for Jesus: Jews for Jesus is an outreach by Jewish Christian
       evangelists. ([7]http://www.ecfa.org/mbrprof.asp?memberid=207)
     * Light of Messiah Ministries: Light of Messiah Ministries exists
       for two purposes. First we want to overcome the misunderstanding
       that Jesus is not for the Jewish people. We want to help our
       people know that Jesus is our Messiah and that the most Jewish
       thing that anyone can do is believe in Him. We also want to help
       our brothers and sisters in Messiah understand the Jewish roots of
       their faith in Jesus.
       ([8]http://www.ecfa.org/mbrprof.asp?memberid=1249)
     * Shoresh USA, Inc.: Shoresh teaches the Church to reclaim its
       Jewish roots, so that it is encouraged in deeper discipleship and
       equipped to share the Gospel with the Jewish people. Shoresh
       reaches Jewish people with the Good News of their Messiah, Jesus
       of Nazareth, so that they will receive Him with joy and fulfill
       their unique calling to bear the Gospel message to the world.
       ([9]http://www.ecfa.org/mbrprof.asp?memberid=105)
     * Chosen People Ministries: The purpose of Chosen People Ministries
       is to serve the Messiah in fulfilling the Great Commission with
       specific emphasis on the Jewish people.
       ([10]http://www.ecfa.org/mbrprof.asp?memberid=9)
       
   The beliefs of the organizations are also clear once you start looking
   at the doctrinal statemenst on the organizations websites. For
   example, one can learn quite a bit about the real Jews for Jesus by
   visiting their web page at [11]http://www.jewsforjesus.org/, or the
   home page of the Messianic Jewish Alliance for America at
   [12]http://www.mjaa.org/. Their statements found on these pages are
   both candid and Christian:
     * Jews for Jesus:
       The Jews for Jesus statement of faith, at
       [13]http://www.jewsforjesus.org/about/faith.htm, says that members
       of Jews for Jesus believe that the Scriptures of the Old and New
       Testaments [emphasis added by FAQ maintainer] are divinely
       inspired, contain no errors and are the final authority in matters
       of faith and life. Although members of Jews for Jesus recognize
       "the value of traditional Jewish literature," they do so only
       insofar as "it is supported by or conformable to the Word of God."
       (Note that, by their definition of the New Testament as divinely
       inspired, this "Word of God" includes the words of Jesus).
       However, Jews for Jesus regard this literature (including books
       such as the Talmud) as "in no way binding upon life or faith."
       According to this statement, although members of Jews for Jesus
       believe only in one God, they believe it exists in three persons:
       a father, a son, and a Holy Spirit (which goes counter to Jewish
       theology). They believe that God had a physical son, and gave that
       son for the redemption of the world (again, counter to Jewish
       theology, but a key aspect of Christian theology). The doctrinal
       statement goes on to express the belief that Jesus is the messiah
       (according to Jewish theology, the messiah has not yet arrived),
       and is "co-equal with God". They believe that Jesus was born
       through "the virgin birth", led a "sinless life", and they hold
       with the concepts of Jesus' atoning death, burial, and bodily
       resurrection. All of these are key Christian theological elements,
       but not part of Judaism.
       The Jews for Jesus doctrine believes that all human beings, with
       the exception of Jesus, are sinners by nature and practice, and
       that Jesus died for the sins of humanity. Again, key Christian
       concepts.
     * Messianic Jews:
       The Messianic Jewish Alliance for America statement of faith, at
       [14]http://www.mjaa.org/StatementOfFaith.ihtml, says that the
       Tenach and the later writings commonly known as the B'rit Hadasha
       (New Covenant) are the only infallible and authoritative word of
       God. It indicates that they accept the teachings of those
       documents as their final authority in all matters of faith and
       practice. These are the approximately the same words as Jews for
       Jesus; as with Jews for Jesus, they include the words of Jesus and
       his disciples as "divinely inspired". In terms of belief, although
       they hold with God as defined by the Shema, they believe that God
       exists as a trinity. More significantly, the hold with basic
       Christian doctrine: "Messiah Yeshua's deity (Is. 9:6, John 1:1,4),
       His virgin birth (Is. 7:14), His sinless life, His atoning death
       (Is. 53, Ps. 22), His bodily resurrection, His ascension, and His
       future return in power and glory." They also believe that all
       Christians are Jewish: "Gentiles who place their faith in Yeshua,
       are "grafted into" the Jewish olive tree of faith (Rom. 11:17-25)
       becoming spiritual sons and daughters of Abraham (Gal. 3:28-29)."
       
   Remember these excerpts when a Hebrew-Christian tries to claim that
   his or her practice is Judaism. The reality is that the belief is not
   Jewish (the Jewish belief is one undivided God, and that the Messiah
   has not yet arrived) and that the goal is to serve as a witness for
   Christianity to the Jews ("....introduce to the Jewish people...")
   
   If an MJ is technically Jewish, try teaching the MJ about Judaism,
   which teaches that one should love one's neighbor as oneself, that one
   should not bear a grudge, that the righteous of all nations have a
   share in the world to come, that G-d is close to all who sincerely
   call, and that the Messiah will usher in a time of peace.

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Subject: Question 17.5: What sort of deceptive terminology do missionaries
         use?

                                  Answer:
   
   First and foremost, groups such as these often usurp Jewish
   terminology and practices. On the surface, the claim is that they do
   this because they are "completed Jews". For example:
     * They no longer call their places of worship churches, but use the
       words like synagogue, "Beit Knesset", "Kehillah".
     * They hide all the crosses and use Menorahs and Stars of David
       instead.
     * They often parade around with Torah scrolls while praying to
       Jesus.
     * Many wear "kipot" (Jewish head coverings) and prayer shawls.
     * They celebrate Jewish holidays like the Passover Seder, but
       pervert their meaning by claiming that theirs (Christian) is the
       real meaning of Jewish customs and traditions. By doing this, they
       negate, distort, or ignore their real origins and significance.
     * They call their leaders 'Rabbis'.
     * They refer to Jesus as Yeshua, to make him sound Jewish.
       
   Why do they do this? Recall that such groups consider both the Tanach
   and the Christian Gospel as the word of G-d. In the Christian Gospel,
   I Corinthians 9:20, it says: "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win
   the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law
   (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the
   law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law
   (though I am not free from G-d's law but am under Christ's law), so as
   to win those not having the law. To the weak I have become weak, to
   win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all
   possible means I might save some." [New International Version]
   
   In other words, they're trying to sell Christianity in the guise of
   Judaism.
   
   Christians believe that through faith in Jesus a person is saved. The
   Christian has the perspective that this is such a singularly important
   thing, above all and any other thing in life--or, for that matter, in
   death--that any regard or concern for others (which is a fundamental
   part of his commitment to and love for G-d) that he persuade others to
   at the very least Hence, there is a strong emphasis to save people by
   bringing others to Christianity. For many of them, messianic
   synagogues are the answer. This allows, in their words, "Jews to
   become Christians while still remaining Jews and cherishing their
   Jewish ancestry. Swedish Americans cherish their Swedish ancestry.
   Chinese Americans treasure their Chinese ancestry. Hebrew Americans
   ought to cherish their Hebrew ancestry and remain strongly Jewish.".
   Missionaries proclaim, "I am a Jew. I go to synagogue. I invite you to
   my synagogue. It meets on Friday evening." They then make those to
   attend those "synagogues" feel right at home. But recall their mission
   statements: their goal is to bring the Jew to Christianity.
   
   Note that it is not just Jews that feel the practices of these groups
   are deceptive. The following are some quotes from a FAQ on such groups
   by Yad Lachim ([5]http://www.yadlachim.org/messianic/messianic.htm):
     * In 1977, the Board of Governors of the Long Island Council of
       Churches (New York) accused "Jews for Jesus" of "engaging in
       subterfuge and dishonesty," and of "mixing religious symbols in
       ways that distort their essential meaning." "Jews for Jesus" filed
       a suit in a State Supreme Court in Manhattan against a 600-member
       Council. The Rev. Jack Alford, the executive director of the
       Council, said the suit "proves the point we were making about
       their tactics." He added: "The mentality of 'Jews for Jesus' is
       the kind of mentality that has been spawn in some fascist and
       communist countries." Eventually, the lawsuit was rejected by
       court. (The New York Times, July 2, 1977)
     * In the summer of 1987 in Washington D.C. (USA), there was held an
       Interfaith Conference of Metropolitan Washington. Partaking in the
       conference were representatives of various Protestant churches,
       Roman-Catholics, together with Moslems and representatives of
       Jewish organizations. The Conference concluded with an official
       statement (published in "Interfaith Connector" Vol. 8, No. 2)
       which stated:
       
     "We condemn proselytizing efforts which delegitimize the faith
     tradition of the person whose conversion is being sought. Such
     tactics go beyond the bounds of appropriate and ethically based
     religious outreach.
     Examples of such practices are those common among groups that have
     adopted the label of Hebrew Christianity, Messianic Judaism, or
     Jews for Jesus. These groups specifically target Jews for
     conversion to their version of Christianity, making claim that in
     accepting Jesus as the savior/messiah, a Jews 'fulfills' his/her
     faith. Furthermore, by celebrating Jewish festivals, worshipping on
     the Jewish Shabbat, appropriating Jewish symbols, rituals and
     prayers in their churches, and, sometimes, even calling their
     leaders 'Rabbi', the seek to win over, often by deception, many
     Jews who are sincerely looking for a path back to their ancestral
     heritage.
     Deceptive proselytizing is practiced on the most vulnerable of
     populations - residents of hospitals and old aged homes, confused
     youth, college students away from home. These proselytizing
     techniques are tantamount to coerced conversions and should be
     condemned."

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Subject: Question 17.6: How can these missionaries be countered?

                                  Answer:
   
   Numerous books have been written on the subject, see the
   [5]Antisemitism portion of the reading list. Above all else, be
   prepared. Support Jews for Judaism(r) and other counter-missionary
   organizations. Jews for Judaism(r) is a Jewish organization worldwide
   (with branches in Canada, South Africa, and soon-to-be branches in
   Australia and Israel) which opposes cults and missionary efforts
   directed at Jews. Jews for Judaism(r) is North America's only full-time
   educational, outreach and counseling organization dedicated to
   countering the multi-million dollar efforts of groups such as Jews for
   Jesus. Their offices serves as Crisis Intervention Centers to help
   those in need and promote Jewish continutity. They are not specific to
   a single movement in Judaism; they unite Jews of diverse backgrounds,
   and have earned the endorsement of a wide sectrum of Jewish community
   agencies, leaders, and rabbis. Their contact information can be found
   below:
   
    JEWS FOR JUDAISM
    
   Website: [6]http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/
     * Canada, Ontario, Toronto
       Julius Ciss & Rabbi Michael Skobac
       2795 Bathurst.
       PO Box 41032
       Toronto, Ontario, Canada M6B 4J6
       Voice: (905) 761-0040
       FAX: (905) 761-0070
       [7]toronto@jewsforjudaism.org
     * South Africa, Raedene
       Rabbi Graeme Finkelstein
       PO Box 51525
       Raedene
       South Africa
       [8]southafrica@jewsforjudaism.org
       Voice: 2711-485-4865
     * USA, California, Los Angeles
       Rabbi Bentzion Kravitz & Mark Sanders [Main Office]
       P.O.Box 351235
       Los Angeles, CA
       90035-1235
       [9]la@jewsforjudaism.org
       Voice: (310) 854-3381
       FAX: (310) 854-3662
     * USA, District of Columbia, Washington D.C.
       Scott Hillman
       [10]scott@jewsforjudaism.org
       Voice: (301) 649-5494
     * USA, Illinois, Chicago
       Voice: (630) 415-1874
       [11]chicago@jewsforjudaism.org
     * USA, Maryland, Baltimore
       Mark Powers & Scott Hillman
       P.O. Box 15059
       Baltimore, MD. 21282
       [12]baltimore@jewsforjudaism.org
       Voice: (410) 602-0276
       FAX: (410) 602-0578
     * USA, New York, New York City
       Gerald Sigal
       Voice: 212-633-2125
       Address: PO Box 117
       Forest Hills, NY 11375
       [13]newyork@jewsforjudaism.org
     * USA, Pennsylvania, Harrisburg
       Mark Powers
       Voice:(717) 233-5397
       [14]harrisburg@jewsforjudaism.org
     * USA, Pennsylvania, Philadelphia
       Voice: (215) 627-2272
       [15]philadelphia@jewsforjudaism.org
       
   In general, missionaries are closed-minded, obstinate, and illogical,
   relying upon memorization rather than reason. Debate with missionaries
   takes place on the [16]alt.messianic newsgroup, not
   soc.culture.judaism or any s.c.j newsgroup.
   
    Other Resources
    
   There are a number of other resources available. First, consult your
   local federation council, and see if they have a Task Force on
   Missionaries and Cults. Some other organizations that have a web
   presence include:
     * Torah Life and Living ([17]http://www.tll.org/). TLL also provides
       a National Anti-Cult Anti-Missionary Hotline at 1-800-572-0372 or
       1-877-ANTICULT. TLL provides anti-cult, anti-missionary exit
       counseling that helps re-expose Jews to their Jewish Heritage, and
       helps to heal families shattered by messianics, missionaries, and
       cults.
     * The Jerusalem Institute of Bible Polemics
       ([18]http://jibp.israel.net/index.html). This is an organization
       that reaches out to the Jewish Community worldwide and offers its
       expertise in dealing with the problems caused by missionaries who
       seek to win Jewish souls.
     * Yad L'achim ([19]http://www.yadlachim.org/). This organization
       offers guidance, advice, direction, and solving problems of
       Israeli citizens, young and old, who have become trapped in the
       clutches of missionaries and mystic cults.
     * The Task Force on Missionaries and Cults
       ([20]http://www.tforce.org/). The leading counter-missionary and
       cult organization in North America and is the leader in providing
       information and assistance to individuals and communities in the
       U.S., Europe, and Israel
     * Derech Emet ([21]http://www.DerechEmet.org). A group working to
       save Jews from missionaries and cults. Support is provided in both
       English and Russian.
     * Outreach Judaism ([22]http://www.outreachjudaism.org/). An
       organization dedicated to bringing Jews back from the Church.
     * Jews Not For Jesus.
       ([23]http://communities.msn.ca/JEWSNOTFORJESUS/)
       
   Lastly, the Being Jewish web page ([24]http://www.beingjewish.com)
   maintains a list of Anti-Missionary Web Sites at
   [25]http://beingjewish.com/anti-missionary-links.html. Dafna Yee also
   maintains a list of over 80 anti-missionary sites at
   [26]http://dafnayee.home.attbi.co.
   
   Note: Jews for Judaism(r) is a registered trademark of Jews for Judaism
   International, Inc.

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Subject: Question 17.7: Who is financing "Jews for Jesus" and similar groups?

                                  Answer:
   
   The Evangelical Council for Financial Responsibility
   ([5]http://www.ecfa.org/) is a wonderful resource for seeing what some
   of these organizations are spending, for the 1997-1998, 1998-1999, and
   1999-2000 fiscal years:
     * Jews for Jesus:
                    FY ENDING      FY ENDING      FY ENDING
                    12/31/1998     12/31/1999     12/31/2000
Income:
            Total: $13,628,190     $16,566,060    $11,653,220
          Donated: $ 9,670,903     $11,875,600    $12,742,930
Expenses:
 Program Services: $ 9,273,284     $10,306,600    $11,272,260
    General/Admin: $ 1,923,136     $ 1,847,503    $ 2,123,040
     Fund Raising: $   649,963     $   914,775    $ 1,166,985
     * Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc.:
                    FY ENDING      FY ENDING      FY ENDING
                    12/31/1998     12/31/1999     12/31/2000
Income:
            Total: $ 7,670,172     $ 7,323,415    $ 7,684,293
          Donated: $ 5,959,927     $ 5,886,419    $ 5,944,681
Expenses:
 Program Services: $ 5,167,787     $ 5,287,971    $ 5,769,062
    General/Admin: $ 1,466,107     $ 1,466,253    $ 1,490,062
     Fund Raising: $   211,058     $   235,566    $   275,042
     * Chosen People Ministries:
                    FY ENDING      FY ENDING      FY ENDING
                     6/30/1999      6/30/2000      6/30/2001
Income:
            Total: $ 5,087,207     $ 5,855,787    $ 5,678,173
          Donated: $ 4,453,785     $ 5,293,154    $ 6,010,797
Expenses:
 Program Services: $ 4,178,096     $ 4,926,066    $ 4,902,867
    General/Admin: $ 1,044,101     $   966,480    $   762,426
     Fund Raising: $   439,296     $   687,733    $ 1,335,241
     * Messianic Vision, Inc.:
                    FY ENDING      FY ENDING      FY ENDING
                    12/31/1998     12/31/1999     12/31/2000
Income:
            Total: $ 1,823,514     $ 1,905,287    $ 2,011,678
          Donated: $ 1,246,100     $ 1,345,072    $ 1,355,198
Expenses:
 Program Services: $ 1,116,585     $ 1,393,008    $ 1,456,944
    General/Admin: $   471,663     $   486,793    $   519,746
     Fund Raising: $    43,694     $    59,099    $    43,694
     * Shoresh USA, Inc.:
                    FY ENDING      FY ENDING      FY ENDING
                    12/31/1998     12/31/1999     12/31/2000
Income:
            Total: $   812,777     No Data Found
          Donated: $   226,095     No Data Found
Expenses:
 Program Services: $   579,669     No Data Found
    General/Admin: $    33,920     No Data Found
     Fund Raising: $     3,405     No Data Found
     * Light of Messiah Ministries:
                    FY ENDING      FY ENDING      FY ENDING
                    12/31/1998     12/31/1999     12/31/2000
Income:
            Total: $   314,878     $   420,180    $   464,260
          Donated: $   261,541     $   373,115    $   401,694
Expenses:
 Program Services: $   120,375     $   154,527    $   232,077
    General/Admin: $    87,444     $   110,910    $   153,419
     Fund Raising: $    38,778     $    48,142    $    66,729
       
   Some other considerations:
     * The amount of donated funds does not equal the total income from
       the group. What are the other sources of monies?
     * Every member of the board of the UMJC (Union of Messianic Jewish
       Congregations) is ordained and a member of a mainline Christian
       church. Most are either AOG (Assemblies of G-d) or Baptist.

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Subject: Question 17.8: Are the key Christian beliefs derived from Judaism?

                                  Answer:
   
   Let's look at some of these beliefs:
    1. The coming of G-d as man. This belief is clearly pagan in origin.
       It's Osiris, or Zeus who are gods who appear as a man. There is no
       basis for this in Judaism.
    2. Children carrying the sins of their fathers. In truth, Children
       de-facto carry the sins of their fathers. Aside from this being a
       verse, it's a psychological fact. Someone raised by parents who
       habitually sinned in some way has that "baggage" with them even
       though the act isn't the child's. Someone raised by pickpockets
       isn't going to see the evil in it that you or I would.
    3. G-d as the father of the Jews. In the Torah, in Exodus, the Jews
       are called "My firstborn". Note that this does not imply that Jews
       alone are the children of G-d. A firstborn child is given the most
       responsibility and for that has the greatest potential for
       privilege if they are met. Much as the Jews have more commandments
       to fulfil, but have a special covenant with G-d if they do. (And
       are punished worse if they don't.)
    4. The concept of the sprit or the angel of the Lord. G-d has a Will,
       in the sense that G-d is not understood as a blind force or law.
       In that sense of "spirit", this is a Jewish belief. If that's what
       you mean by "spirit", I'd agree.
       As for Angels. Angels exist in Judaism. They all serve G-d. With
       no free will. An angel must complete its mission in the same way
       as a rock dropped above the ground will fall. In fact, natural
       forces like gravity are themselves mediated between the Will of
       G-d and the physical action by an angel. As the Talmud says it,
       "not a blade of grass lives without an angel standing over it
       saying 'grow! grow!'.
    5. The concept of a trinity. Not Jewish at all. Judaism has an
       indivisible G-d, which is incompatible with the trinity. Judaism
       teaches that every person has three parents: a mother, a father,
       and G-d, but none of us are deified. It's not "natural" that the
       child of G-d be a god. What early Christians did was take the
       Canaanite and Phoeician trinity of Ba'al, Asheirah and Moloch
       (Ba'al, Ishtar and Marduk), which later became the basis of the
       Greek and therefore the Roman pantheon and grafted that into
       Judaism to appeal to the polytheistic non-Jews of the Middle East.
       They also changed a religion that was about law, self improvement,
       decisions, and man's struggle to redeem himself, and made it about
       G-d, turning to G-d for salvation from man's inherent fallibility
       (the original sin).

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Subject: How do I obtain copies of the FAQ?

                                  Answer:
   
   There are a number of different ways to obtain copies of the FAQ:
     * WWW. If you are reading this on Usenet, and would like to see an
       online, hyperlinked version, go visit [2]http://www.scjfaq.org/.
       This is the "web" version of the FAQ; the version posted to Usenet
       is generated from the web version. Note that the www.scjfaq.org
       version is a copy of the actual master version; if you want to
       access the master, visit [3]http://master.scjfaq.org/.
     * Email. Scjfaq.org also provides an autoretriever that allows one
       to obtain a copy of the FAQ by return Email. To use the
       autoretriever, you send a retrieval request to
       [4]archives@scjfaq.org with the request in the body of the
       message. A more reliable way to retrieve these files is through
       the [5]FAQ autoretriever
       ([6]http://www.mljewish.org/bin/autoresp.cgi). For the FAQ, the
       request has the form:
       
     send faq partname
       For the reading list, the request has the form:
       
     send rl partname
       "Partname" is replaced by the name of the part, as shown in the
       general index. The following is a short summary of the mapping to
       partnames for the FAQ:
          + [7]01-FAQ-intro: Section [8]1: Network and Newsgroup
            Information.
          + [9]02-Who-We-Are: Section [10]2: Who We Are
          + [11]03-Torah-Halacha: Sections [12]3, [13]4: Torah; Halachic
            Authority
          + [14]04-Observance: Sections [15]5, [16]6, [17]7, [18]8:
            Jewish Holidays; Jewish Dietary Law and Kashrut; Sabbath and
            Holiday Observance; Woman and Marriage
          + [19]05-Worship: Sections [20]9, [21]10, [22]11: Jewish
            Worship; Conversion, Intermarriage, and "Who is a Jew?";
            Miscellaneous Practice Questions
          + [23]06-Jewish-Thought: Section [24]12: Jewish Thought
          + [25]07-Jews-As-Nation: Section [26]13: Jews as a Nation
          + [27]08-Israel: Section [28]14: Jews and Israel
          + [29]09-Antisemitism: Sections [30]15, [31]16, [32]17: Churban
            Europa (The Holocaust); Antisemitism and Rumors about Jews;
            Countering Missionaries
          + [33]10-Reform: Section [34]18: Reform/Progressive Judaism
          + [35]11-Miscellaneous: Sections [36]19, [37]20: Miscellaneous;
            References and Getting Connected
          + [38]12-Kids: Section [39]21: Jewish Childrearing Related
            Questions
          + [40]mail-order: Mail Order Judaica
       The following is a short summary of the mapping of partnames for
       the Reading Lists:
          + [41]general: Introduction and General. Includes book sources,
            starting points for beginners, starting points for non-Jewish
            readers, General Judaism, General Jewish Thought, General
            Jewish History, Contemporary Judaism, Noachide Laws, Torah
            and Torah Commentary, Talmud and Talmudic Commentary,
            Mishnah, Midrash, Halachic Codes, Becoming An Observant Jew,
            Women and Judaism, and Science and Judaism.
          + [42]traditional: Traditional Liturgy, Practice, Lifestyle,
            Holidays. Includes Traditional Liturgy; Traditional
            Philosophy and Ethics; Prayer; Traditional Practice; The
            Household; Life, Death, and In-Between; and The Cycle Of
            Holidays.
          + [43]mysticism: Kabbalah, Mysticism, and Messianism. Includes
            Academic and Religious treatments of Kabbalah, Sprituality,
            and the Jewish notion of the Messiah.
          + [44]reform: Reform/Progressive Judaism
          + [45]conservative: Conservative Judaism
          + [46]reconstructionist: Reconstructionist Judaism
          + [47]humanistic: Humanistic Judaism (Society for Humanistic
            Judaism)
          + [48]chasidism: Chassidism. Includes general information on
            historical chassidism, as well as specific information on
            Lubavitch (Chabad), Satmar, Breslaw (Breslov), and other
            approaches.
          + [49]zionism: Zionism. Includes Zionism and The Development Of
            Israel, The Founders, Zionistic Movements, and Judaism in
            Israel.
          + [50]antisemitism: Antisemitism. Includes sections on
            Antisemitism, What Led to The Holocaust, Medieval Oppression,
            Antisemitism Today (Including Dealing with Hate Groups),
            Judaism and Christianity, and Judaism, Freemasonry and other
            rumors.
          + [51]intermarriage: Intermarriage. Includes sections on "So
            You're Considering Intermarriage?", The Traditional
            Viewpoint, Conversion, and Coping With Life As An
            Intermarried.
          + [52]childrens: Books for Jewish Children. Includes sections
            on Birth and Naming, Raising a Child, Family Guidebooks,
            Upsheren, Bar/Bat Mitzvah, Confirmation, Holiday Books for
            Children, Liturgy for Children, Bible and Torah for Children,
            Jewish History for Children, Jewish Theology for Children,
            Israel, Learning Hebrew, and Jewish Stories.
       Alternatively, you may send a message to
       [53]mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with the following line in the body
       of the message:
       send usenet/news.answers/judaism/(portionname)
       Where (portionname) is replaced by the appropriate subdirectory
       and filenames; for example, to get the first part of the reading
       list, one would say:
        send usenet/news.answers/judaism/reading-lists/general
     * Anonymous FTP: All portions of the FAQ and of the reading lists
       are archived on [54]rtfm.mit.edu and are available for anonymous
       FTP from the pub/usenet/news.answers/judaism/FAQ directory (URL
       [55]ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/judaism/FAQ/).
       Similarly, the parts of the reading lists are stored in the
       pub/usenet/news.answers/judaism/reading-lists directory (URL:
       [56]ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/judaism/reading-lis
       ts). Note that the archived versions of the FAQ and reading lists
       are the posted versions; that is, they are each one large ASCII
       file.

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Subject: Who Wrote the FAQ?

                                  Answer:
   
   The original version of the Frequently Asked Questions was developed
   by a committee consisting of Mike Allen, Jerry Altzman, Rabbi Charles
   Arian, Jacob Baltuch (Past Chair), Joseph Berry, Warren Burstein,
   Stewart Clamen, Daniel Faigin, Avi Feldblum, Rabbi Yaakov Feldman,
   Itzhak "Jeff" Finger, Gedaliah Friedenberg, Yechezkal Gutfreund, Art
   Kamlet, Joe Kansun, CAPT Kaye David, Alan Lustiger, Hillel Markowitz,
   Len Moskowitz, Colin Naturman, Aliza Panitz, Eliot Shimoff, Mark
   Steinberger, Steven Weintraub, Matthew Wiener, and headed by Robert
   Levene. The organization and structuring of the lists for posting
   purposes was done by [2]Daniel Faigin, who is currently maintaining
   the lists. Other contributors include Aaron Biterman, A. Engler
   Anderson, Ken Arromdee, Seymour Axelrod, Jonathan Baker, Josh Backon,
   Micha Berger, Steven M. Bergson, Eli Birnbaum, Shoshana L. Boublil,
   Kevin Brook, J. Burton, Harvey Cohen, Todd J.Dicker, Michael Dinowitz,
   Rabbi Jim Egolf, Sean Engelson, Mike Fessler, Menachem Glickman,
   Amitai Halevi, Walter Hellman, Per Hollander, Miriam Jerris, Robert D.
   Kaiser, Yosef Kazen, Rabbi Jay Lapidus, Mier Lehrer, Heather Luntz,
   David Maddison, Arnaldo Mandel, Ilana Manspeizer, Seth Ness, Chris
   Newport, Daniel Nomy, Jennifer Paquette, Andrew Poe, Alan Pfeffer,
   Jason Pyeron, Adam Reed, Seth Rosenthall, JudithSeid@aol.com, David
   Sheen, Rabbi John Sherwood, Michael Sidlofsky, Michael Slifkin, Frank
   Smith, Michael Snider, Rabbi Arnold Steibel, Andy Tannenbaum,
   marktan@aol.com, Meredith Warshaw, Bill Wadlinger, Arel Weisberg,
   Dorothy Werner, and Art Werschulz, and the
   soc.culture.jewish.parenting board. Some material has been derived
   from other sources on the Internet, such as
   [3]http://www.jewishwebsite.com/, [4]http://www.jewfaq.org/, and
   [5]http://www.menorah.org/. Comments and corrections are welcome;
   please address them to [6]maintainer@scjfaq.org.
   
   A special thank you... Special thanks for her patience and
   understanding go to my wife, Karen, who put up with me hiding at the
   computer for the two months it took to complete the July/August 2000
   remodel of the entire soc.culture.jewish FAQ and Reading Lists. If you
   think the effort was worth it, drop her a note c/o
   [7]maintainer@scjfaq.org.

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