From: ericb@telecnnct.com (Eric Burger) Subject: SUMMARY: Local-and Ethertalk same time (A) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 10:29:13 -0400 (EDT) It turns out that the solution for us is to use our existing GatorBox, and let the GatorBox route to the printer. I can't tell if it's slower. We won't be re-wiring, so if the GatorBox does go out, we can always go back to switching the interface. Thanks to: grs2@crux2.cit.cornell.edu peter@hub.toronto.edu (Peter Boulton) RICHARD LIM kmied@file01.mpipf-muenchen.mpg.de (Miedreich Frank Hiwi) Graeme Forbes The original posting and responses follow. -- -- Eric William Burger -- Eric.Burger@telecnnct.com -- -- The Telephone Connection -- Tel. +1 301/417-0700 -- -- 15200 Shady Grove Road -- Fax. +1 301/417-0707 -- -- Rockville, MD 20850 -- U.S.A. -- Original Posting: >We've got a bunch of Mac's connected together with both Ethertalk >and Localtalk. The Mac's also communicate with Sun's over TCP/IP. >The Mac's run MacOS 6.0.7, 7.0.1, and 7.1 . > >We also have a LaserWriter connected through LocalTalk, with a >GatorBox supplying lpd access to the LaserWriter for the Sun's. > >Is there a way, from the Mac, to set our networking to Ethertalk >for AppleShare, but use LocalTalk for printing? If I set Networking >to EtherTalk, then the Chooser doesn't see the printer. If I set >Networking to LocalTalk, then the AppleShare connection goes over >LocalTalk as well. > >What to do? Glenn Souther writes: > No, this can't be done. (With the exception of running Apple's Internet > Router on every machine, or the equivalent) However, the Gatorbox > can be configured to be a router. This was the original use of the > Gatorbox. All Appletalk goes onto the ethernet, and the gatorbox > rebroadcasts the relevant printer packets back and forth to the local > -talk. Mark Haidl writes: > You can software called LaserBridge from Sonic Systems which you > install on a mac which is on ethernet and also connected through > localtalk to the laserwriter. LaserBridge routes printer > traffic from ethertalk to localtalk so everyone can see the > printer. > > Sonic Systems, Inc. Mac boot roms & LaserBridge software > 333 W. El Camino Real > Suite 280 Phone: (408) 736-1900 > Sunnyvale, CA 94087 Fax: (408) 736-7228 Peter Boulton writes: > I am running from such a system now (Quadra 700, system 7.0.1, ethertalk to > internet, local talk to a laserwriter) > > You buy 'Powerpath' from Farallon (About $75) if all you want is a printer. > You buy 'LocalPath' from Farallon (About $150) if you want a full localtalk > net (max of 8 devices). > Ethernet connection is set up as usual. > > I use PowerPath. Works like a charm. Richard Lim writes: > Macs don't do this without third-party software. Look out for things like > Farallon Liaison and SoftSync's various bridge programs (LaserBridge, > SuperBridge etc) in any Mac magazine or catalog Miedreich Frank Hiwi writes: > Hi Eric > I just read your question in the digest newsgroup > > Our solution was using Farallon PowerPath. It lets you connect 1 LocalTalk > device to an existing Ethernet. The Machine the LocalTalk device is connected > to must always be running (while you want access to the device from other > machines). If the device is a printer, and somebody starts a printjob, > you will get some jerky movements of the mouse, and some very short delays (<1sec) over > some time. There are hardware solutions, but these tend to be expensive, > while PowerPath costs only about $150. > There is another product (LocalPath) to connect up to 8 LocalTalk devices, > I have no experience using this one. > > PowerPath runs stable, it is a cdev, and there is only one problem known to me. > Occasionally, if you turn of the Mac, and PowerPath is running, you do not get > the warning dialog that other users are connected to this Macintosh. > Turning PowerPath off, restarting, turning it on again and restarting solves > the problem. It happend to me once, after the installation. Since then no > problems. I am satisfied. Graeme Forbes writes: > So far as I know it can't be done - you have to keep switching your > network. > > I would *love* to find out that I'm wrong about this. Please summarize > to the digest or forward to me if I am.